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Due to the ‘wings’ (shall I call them) the pad ends up being 47 inches (119cm) wide, which puts this pad into the realm of, well, wide.
MSRP for the ‘Hammock V Pad‘ is $139.95
The bottom side (underneath) of the pad appears to have two plugs, which is typical of pads this size. I wonder if these are one way plugs or if Klymit has leased the rights to use the S2S two-way air plugs (‘multi-functional valve’ I think they like to call them these days), which honestly, every company that makes air pads should just do, they really are nice.
Wanted to talk Klymit pillows for a couple of minutes, with a primary focus on the newly introduced “Pillow Ultra Light” – a collaborative pillow with Massdrop and Klymit.
At the moment Klymit has three pillows on the market:
- Pillow X
- Cush Seat
- Pillow Ultra Light
I have used all three of these and as one would expect, they each have their highlights.
Last month I published an article entitled ‘Massdrop x Klymit ‘Static V Ultra Light‘ in which I took at look at the collaboration work between Massdrop and Klymit with the introduction of their new 20d fabric sleeping pad.
Towards the end of the article I made this statement:
I know some of you are going to be wondering about modifying the Massdrop x Klymit ‘Static V Ultra Light’. As some of us have – myself included – with other Klymit (and even TaR) sleeping pads, the Massdrop x Klymit ‘Static V Ultra Light’ is manufactured like all of the other Klymit sleeping pads, that is, with a heat pressure machine. This means that you will easily be able to cut down the Massdrop x Klymit ‘Static V Ultra Light’ from the standard 72″ length to something in the shorter range
I was asked if I would be willing to make a video showing how this is done.
It took me a bit of work, as the video shoot unfortunately turned into about 3.5 hours of total video, as I talked my way through every little step as I was recording. The total shoot time spanned three days of modifying the pad (and thus shooting video) with a one day delay due to my archaic iron not working and having to purchase a new one.
For the sake of everybody, I got the main video shortened down to about 40 minutes.
I realize that is still a very long video and I will not feel bad if anybody skips ahead to the good part, towards the end, but hopefully there will be something in the first 30 or so minutes that will interest some folks.
Over the last few years I have written a number of reviews on Klymit gear, including the Klymit Static V sleeping pad, the Klymit Double Diamond Vest, and the Klymit Motion 35 backpack, as well as reviews of other Klymit gear that has been published at other websites. Suffice to say, I have been a fan of Klymit for many a years. Great gear, great people.
In October of 2014 during an email conversation with my friends over at Klymit, I asked if they could make me a shortened version of the Klymit Static V Luxe.
Now, I know what you are thinking… “What in the world would Abela be using one of those heavy things for?!?!“… I know… I know… but hear me out here.
If you have followed my articles here at HikeLighter.Com and my rather active facebook page, you know that I have been looking for an extra wide sleeping pad for a rather long time. But nothing has come along. I even came up with, and submitted to Klymit, my purposed (and rather comical) “Klymit Wing” idea. So, it has been no secret that I have been after a wide sleeping pad, and that is what drove me to the Static V Luxe.
At 30-inches (76.2 cm) wide, the Klymit Static V Luxe is a pretty big boy in the world of sleeping pads.
But at 76-inches (193 cm) long, it was just too long for my needs, so, I asked if they could shorten it up for me, they said yes, so I ordered one from their website and about a week later a 52-inch (132 cm) when inflated Static V Luxe showed up!
I pulled it out of the box, took it outside, inflated it, and tossed it on the ground, got on it, and started rolling over from side to side… and guess what… I didn’t fall off my sleeping pad!!! Weehooo!!
In late 2013 I started hearing rumors that Klymit, a company I have bought a fair amount of gear from and wrote some great reviews about (ref 1, ref 2, ref 3), were in the process of bringing a backpack to the market. I did not put a lot of trust in these rumors because it did not seem like Klymit would be the kind of company to bring a backpack to the market. They have partnered with a number of companies that make backpacks to supply their airframe support technology for makers of backpacks. This rumor changed when I was handed a Klymit Motion 35 in January of 2014 at the PCT Kickoff in Southern California.
I was briefly told about its features and to give it a go “if it looked like something that would work for me“, no strings attached. Having been involved in building a backpack for the last two years I did not really expect to get much, and to be honest, probably not any, use out of it. All of that changed when I found myself without a backpack for a three day hike I was invited to. My primary backpack was off getting some repair work, my prototype was off getting another few modifications done to it, another backpack I own was being used by a friend hiking the pct, and the last backpack I had sitting around was just too small. This left me wondering “hmm” but I recalled that Klymit backpack sitting in my gear room and went and grabbed it to see if I could get my gear into it, and more importantly, if it was even going to be a viable backpack for me.
For the past six months I have had the opportunity to use incredibly unique 2013 Double Diamond Vest manufactured exclusively by Klymit. This is a vest that stands apart from the rest of the hiking vest community. It does not have down inside of it, nor does it have synthetic material inside of it to help keep you warm. Rather it uses NobleTex insultion, which is the use of specific materials combined together with the noble gas called Argon. Klymit over the last year or two has perhaps become more known for its sleeping pads than its vests, which is all that Klymit originally offered when they got started back in August of 2007. They reminded the hiking world of the fact that they are also a clothing manufacturer in October of 2012 when they announced their Ulaar Jacket via a Kickstarter project.
For 2013 they also made a few changes to their flagship vest, the Double Diamond vest. It, like their sleeping pads and other garments, features their signature welding process for material – giving it that distinct tube style design. Just to put this out there as a disclaimer before I go any further, Klymit sent this vest to me for T&E and I was/am under no obligation to publicly share my thoughts on this vest. I was intending to return the vest within sixty days or so after getting it, but here I am almost 200 days later and I am still wearing, testing, and trying to find my full thoughts on this product. More and more I am trying to spend at least 200 days using a product before I write my thoughts about it. In the early days of my hiking and writing articles I had no problem pushing out an article with a product I only had for a few days or maybe a week or two. The internet is becoming flooded with gear reviewers who do articles after getting their product and maybe using it for a day or two, if at all.
The world of sleeping pads continues to grow and I have been no stranger from talking about sleeping pads from Klymit. Just over a year ago I published my thoughts over at RedwoodOutdoors.Com (my originally site for publishing hiking gear articles) on the Klymit Inertia XL sleeping pad. A month later I took the bold step and resized my Inerta XL (perhaps the first customer in the world to do so??) and I published how I resized it and compared it to my resized Original Therm-a-Rest NeoAir (which I had also resized.) Suffice to say I have really come to like what Klymit is doing. They are a company that is working very hard to get their products out there, do so in a respectable manner, and producing some very solid products.
Now I want to take the time to write up my thoughts on the Klymit Static V, their newest sleeping pad – and their first sleeping pad to not be filled with a bunch of holes (err, sorry: loft pockets).
I am one of the few SUL hikers in world who uses a “full size” sleeping pad. I am a side sleeper. I like to sleep. I like comfort. Enough said.
The way I figure it, given the low weight of my setups, I can get away with adding a few extra ounces of weight in order to make sure that my sleeping gear is of sufficient comfort that I can sleep well. In the summer time I might only go out with a simple CCF pad, but once it hits the shoulder season the full size air pad comes out – and sometimes in the summer, if I just want to be comfortable!
In the world of air pads I have owned an Exped Downmat 9 (size Large), an original NeoAir (full size, small, medium, and a second full size I cut down in length so I could have a ‘wide-short’), the NeoAir X-Lite (full size), the Klymit Inerta XL (full size, later cut down to a wide-short), and the Klimit Static V (only comes in one size: large).
Why I Bought The Static V:
Recently I have become tired of spending huge amounts of money on hiking gear. It scares me when I think about how much money is tied up in my hiking gear. Granted it is ‘my life’ for a good part of the year, but those who follow my articles know that I tend to buy the top of the line gear, and also have a large amount of my gear custom made – which is just over-the-top expensive. I have never made it any secrete that XUL hiking is not cheap, a hiker going from a heavy setup to a XUL setup can have $10,000+ invested in all of the gear that they have bought from their twenty-five pound setup down to their under three pound setup. You end up buying a whole lot of gear along the way trying to find multiple setups that work for you. I also know that some of my readers are not SUL/XUL hikers – folks who follow my articles to learn a bit (hopefully), and folks who might not want, or who cannot, spend big bucks on gear. So I have been trying to spend some time with some gear that is more reasonably priced yet still not overtly heavy. The Klymit Static V fits into that group perfectly!
Every year over on the pct-l (a mailing list for the pct – and what happens to be, in my opinion, the best resource on the internet for hikers) there are potential pct hikers who start asking questions about gear that does not cost a fortune. Just in the few years I have been apart of the pct-l I have seen dozens of folks asking about how to hike the pct without spending a fortune. I am sure that websites such as whiteblaze also gets a ton of these type of questions every year about the AT.
So I will be honest and say that the main reason I bought the Klymit Static V is because I wanted to see how an air pad that has a MSRP of $59.95 would compare to the almighty NeoAir XLite, which has a MSRP of $179.95. Could it be as comfortable? Could it hold up? Could it handle more than just an overnighter? What exactly are you going to get for a sixty dollar air pad? These are the questions I wanted answers too.
How It Compares:
Those who follow my articles know I really do not like to compare one product to another. Only twice in all of the years that I have been writing articles about hiking have I compared products (and those two times where short paragraphs just to help people have an understanding of something) so I am having to break my rule in order to write this review. Simply put, if I do not spend the time comparing the Klymit Static V within this article, I will probably spend three times as much post-article answering comments asking me to do so. So how this is going to work is that I will be comparing the Klymit Static V (the most recent air pad on the market I think) to the NeoAir XLite, pretty much the de facto best-of-the-best. I will be using the NeoAir XLite “Large” within this review, as it is the closest in size to the Klymit Static V.
|Static V||NeoAir XLite|
|Weight:||514 grams (18.13 ounces)||460 grams (16.22 ounces)|
|Length:||72 inches (183 cm)||77 inches (196 cm)|
|Width:||23 inches (59 cm)||25 inches (63 cm)|
|Height:||2.5 inches (6.35 cm)||2.5 inches (6.5 cm)|
Here are the differences work out between the two:
|Weight:||The Static V is 54 grams (1.90 ounces) heavier|
|Length:||The XLite is 5 inches (13 cm) longer|
|Width:||The XLite is 2 inches (4 cm) wider|
|Height:||Both are the same height|
|R-value:||The XLite provides an additional 1.9 of R-value|
|MSRP:||The XLite is $120 more expensive|
When it comes to comfort, that is paramount for me. The Static X is very likely the most comfortable sleeping pad I have ever used. As a side sleeper who tosses and turns and rolls and most of the time ends up in a fetal position while sleeping, having a sleeping pad that can keep me on the sleeping pad is a surprising difficult thing to find. The NeoAir Original did a decent job, the NeoAir XLite for the most part totally fails me – I almost always roll off the sides of it. The Exped Downmat 9 did a pretty good job of keeping me on the pad as well.
Durability totally goes to the Static V. As far as I know this is the same crazy tough material that they make all of their other sleeping pads out of, and you can put these things right on the ground and jump all over there. Check out this video to see this!
At $60 bucks, it totally blows away any other “large” size sleeping pad out there – at least the ones I would consider buying. I have seen them on sale at a few different places in the high 40 range. Compare even their MSRP to the NeoAir and, well, “wow”. It really makes you stop and wonder if the extra 1.9 ounces is worth $120 bucks. If you are an active SUL hiker, it might be worth dropping the extra $120 bucks, but if not, it just seems to me like the Static V wins in every regards when it comes to price.
Inflation very much goes to the Static V. I tend to average 12-15 full breaths to fill up the Static V. Compare that to an average of 29-33 for the NeoAir XLite. That is a huge difference.
At 23 inches in width the Static V gives a bit more width than most of the other regular or small sized sleeping pads out there. For those that like/need a “wide” sleeping pad, because of the way that the sides are designed on the Static V, it feels as-wide-as, perhaps even a little wider than the XLite. However, on paper it is not as wide as the XLite so I have put this under the ‘cons’. As I said though, based on sleeping on them both, I prefer the Static V.
I will say that I have noticed the missing 5 inches from the overall length of the Static V. I am not really sure why Klymit decided to ditch the industry standard for a “large” and go with one that is 72 inches rather than the 77 that pretty much everybody else uses, but it is something that I have noticed when laying on it. Basically it has taken away the ability to place my pillow directly onto the sleeping pad. At 2.5 inches tall, that makes trying to put a pillow at the head-end rather difficult.. I simply do not have enough stuff left over to stuff into a stuff sack in order to raise my pillow up high enough. And for whatever reason I do not like my feet hanging off of a sleeping pad, so the missing 5 inches limits my ability to use this sleeping pad by putting my head off the top-end.
Being 72 inches in length also limits the ability of the Static V to use it with a “long” sleeping bag – my MBULSS#3 is a long and I end up having a few inches falling off the end of the sleeping pad. Inside of a shelter this is not all that big of a deal, but when cowboy camping, it pretty much mandates that I take along an extra ground cloth to protect the end of my sleeping bag.
At a R-value of 1.3 you are not going to want to be taking the Static V thing out in winter (unless you combine it with some other pads) so the XLite at 3.2 clearly wins in this regards.
The Static V is 54 grams (1.90 ounces) heavier than the XLite, and as a SUL/XUL hiker, that is a lot. However the comfort, the ability to stay on the pad, the knowledge I am supporting a smaller cottage company (Klymit is based out of Ogden, UT), and the price-factor makes those extra two ounces go away – even for a hiker as perfervid as I am about counting grams.
If you are looking for an air inflated sleeping pad that is sub-100 dollars, provides some decent comfort and does not take up a lot of bulk space, the Klymit Static V should warrant some serious consideration!