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1.66 gram esbit tray

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A 1.66 gram esbit tray made by Brian Green from http://www.briangreen.net

Greetings Hikers,

Every so often a group of hikers get together, and through the course of experimentation and sharing of information, find a way to make something that is already really great at what it does, and they turn it into something even better!

For a fairly long time the Gram Cracker by Trail Designs has been the de facto go-to try for ultralight esbit users. It has held a special place in the lives of a whole lot of hikers for a rather long time now. I have used one since I became an esbit user a number of years ago. I still use the original one I bought and it has thousands of miles of use and has had probably 2000+ esbit cubes burned on it and made countless meals and cups of tea and coffee for me.

Back in mid to late 2011 a few esbit users started playing around with some MYOG ideas regarding an esbit try. Honestly I have no idea if they had never used the Gram Cracker and had no idea if it even existed, or if they set out to make a better one, or if they were just playing around and come up with an idea that worked for them. What is worthy of taking note of is that over the course of the end of 2011, it went from one or two people playing around with an idea to a few more people playing around with the idea. In the end, I think it was Brian Green who brought it all together.

I had been following the progression of what these hikers were doing and none of it really made me want to move away from the Gram Cracker. I am a rather loyal kind of guy I guess you could say. One thing lead to another and eventually I dropped a message to Brian asking him if he happened to have one sitting around and what I could do to acquire one. A week or so later it was in my mailbox and I have been one very happy esbit user ever since.

Now my long time readers are already aware that I very much do not like doing “comparisons” or putting one product up against another. That is just not my style. I think we each need to find gear that makes up happy and go with it, and stop this whole internet craze of pitting one product up against another. So all I am going to do here is list the specs of the Trail Designs Gram Cracker, and than I will move on and talk about the brian green esbit tray.  The Trail Designs Gram Cracker on my calibrated scale is 3.4 grams.

The Brian Green Titanium Esbit Tray:

1.66 grams

Brian Green Titanium Esbit Tray on my calibrated scale.

For all of the history of its development and to see thoughts directly from Brian please check out this page of his website. He has done a great job of explaining how he makes them, with lots of photos to help other MYOG hikers, and he even provides a .pdf file with the template. Pretty awesome!

The specs on the titanium esbit tray that he sent me is 1.66 grams.

This is an amazing accomplishment.

There are some differences between this tray and other ones out there, such as the Trail Designs Gram Cracker (TDGC). This includes the lack of ability to change the direction of the upright pieces of titanium – you TDGC users will know what it is I am talking about and hopefully understand what that is such a valuable feature at times. The Brian Green Esbit Tray (BGET) is also not as tall as any other esbit tray I have ever used. I have found this to be beneficial because most other esbit trays end up being so tall that the flame from the esbit cube are not able to reach optimal temperatures before it reached the bottom of your pot/can. I suppose one could say that the BGET is slightly harder to clean (after a whole lot of use, as in, dozens and dozens of esbit cubes) but anybody who is an esbit user is not going to mind this anyway, just part of being out on the trail.

From a design perspective I find that the BRET is able to resist wind as good as any other stand-alone esbit tray I have used. This has been a help to me as I prefer using 4 gram esbit cubes rather than the larger 14 gram cubes – that probably the vast majority of hikers are use to using. By using the 4 gram cubes I am able to have a lot more control over the temperature that my stove puts out, reduce overall waste, and I almost never have to carry used esbit cubes – something that turns off a lot of hikers.

Final Thoughts:

As a hiker who highly values the gear that is within my backpack, and as a hiker who has been (is?) known to be OCD about counting grams, the BGET has absolutely become my go-to esbit tray. I still have all of my other ones, I still pull them out at times, but when my cook kit goes into my backpack, the BRET is the one that makes it in.

I want to say a huge thank you to Brian Green for sending this out to me. It has already gotten a lot of usage and hopefully in the next few years it can get the kind of mileage and use that my TDGC has gotten over the years!

+Abela

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Written by John B. Abela - HikeLighter.Com

January 11, 2013 at 5:42 am

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  1. Thanks for the thorough testing and review. I’m humbled by your words and happier than ever that it has become your esbit stove of choice. Funny how a simple idea can morph into something both fun to make and functional to use. Thanks also for sharing the links back to my original blog post where readers can download the PDF file containing the template to make this themselves. By the way, I love the term BGET stove, I’ll have to start using that myself :) – Cheers, BG

    Brian Green (@bfgreen)

    January 11, 2013 at 6:41 am

  2. Nice article, thanks for sharing

    Loneoak

    January 11, 2013 at 8:06 am

  3. Good read as usual. Still not a fan of Esbit though. Anything has to be better than that one alcohol stove you tried to use though. Ugh.

    Ken Thompson

    January 11, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    • lol, I have had a few stoves over the last few years that have been utter failures, eh Ken!

      John B. Abela

      January 11, 2013 at 8:40 pm

  4. Jeez, I gotta try this esbit ‘way’ you’re all using! Soon I hope……….

    Andy

    January 11, 2013 at 11:53 pm

  5. I made one of these using Brian’s template and it worked perfectly. Thanks! I also used the extra ti sheeting to make a stove case/flame extinguisher. It’s basically a small box that the stove fits in so it won’t get crushed, and it helps put the flame out efficiently when I’ve only burned part of a cube and my water is boiling. Sometimes ti can be frustrating to hold a cup of boiling water in your hands while you blow the cube out, sending leaves, dirt, smoke, and sometimes the stove flying through the air. The box adds a few grams, but it’s worth it to me. You can see a demo here:

    cheers!

    mcdcrook

    January 23, 2013 at 9:48 am

    • Love it!!!

      I would totally carry the extra weight for the snuffer!!

      A snuffer is by far the best way to put out the larger 14 g esbit cubes once you have used up what you need.

      John B. Abela

      January 23, 2013 at 9:53 am

  6. Hey John. Hope all is well? I too made a BGET…love it. That snuffer is a very cool idea mcdcrook! Like you John, I use 4g Esbit, and simply let the excess (if any) burn out. Awesome.

    jason

    March 1, 2013 at 11:42 am

  7. Thanks again for another helpful blog post John. Just wanted to ask if Brian’s lighter esbit tray design affords any other efficiencies over the Trail Designs Gram Cracker besides lower height to possibly allow the hotter part of the flame to hit the bottom of your pot (as you noted)?

    EJ

    March 29, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    • Hey EJ,

      Good question that I do not know the answer to. I do very little testing with regards to esbit efficiency.

      The positives of the BGET is that it is all one piece and thus no chances of losing parts – unlike the TDGC which sort of slides together from three different pieces. It is also lighter.

      The negatives of the BGET is that it does not lay as flat and takes up more room inside of a cookkit, which for folks that only use things like a 300ml cup for all their water boiling, can be a problem if they are wanting to stuff their entire cookkit and esbit bag into the cup. And, of course, it is something they would have to make and could not just buy online.

      Up until earlier this week when I came across this video I would have said that an esbit is an esbit is an esbit, in regards to max heat output and efficiency, so long as you keep it out of the wind. However, based on this video, that belief I had appears to be horrifically inaccurate. He was able to obtain an additional 11 degrees of water temperature by using an additional ring around the esbit, and inside of the wind screen. Those 11 degrees could be vital to a hiker that is boiling their water for sterilization before consumption.

      There have been folks that have done tests in the past with the TDGC and putting the side panels in a vertical position rather than a horizontal position to edge out a few edge degrees of heat from the esbit. I did some testing a few years ago when I first got my TDGC, but over the years I had (until watching that video) pretty much just stopped caring about the whole issue. As long as I got my water hot enough to use, that is all I care(d) about.

      So anyway EJ, this is one of those type of questions that falls outside the type of performance testing that I do… I have just never been *that* interested in these type of things that Jon from FlatCatGear and Hiram do and are into.

      John B. Abela

      March 30, 2013 at 4:35 am

  8. […] using the tri-wing for one trip, and knowing that it worked, I switched it out and went back to my BGET esbit tray. Nothing wrong with the tri-wing, but I just prefer this little tray and a dedicated wire pot stand […]

  9. […] still something to doing it the way I have done it for a couple of seasons (zelph 2cup flat bottom+esbit tray) so I am by no means saying I have become a JetBoil convert. But as I said above:  there are […]

  10. […] the setup includes: the Evernew EBY265, the TrailDesigns Sidewinder designed for the EBY265, the BGET, a small Ti disk for ground protection, a philadelphia cream cheese lid, a mini-bic, and a heavy […]

  11. […] their results via the Backpacking Light forums. John Abela of HikeLighter.com posted a wonderful, detailed review and analysis of my Esbit tray stove via his blog. John was the one who first coined the term “BGET” or Brian […]

  12. […] about esbit cooking systems and for a few years that is almost all that I used and wrote about. BGET […]

  13. The BGET has been improved upon by adding the “breadpan” corners. No loss of melted esbit, complete combustion of the entire cube. Brian’s basic design is awesome. Thanks for your review of Brian’s BGET :-)

    stovemandan

    July 23, 2016 at 9:51 am


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